If any former members of KISS join their ex-bandmates for their final show, they won’t be doing it in makeup.

That’s the word from KISS manager Doc McGhee, who says if founding members Ace Frehley and Peter Criss join the band onstage for their last hurrah, “you’re not going to see six guys up there in makeup. That’s not going to happen.”

Which isn’t to say a reunion is set in stone. “You can invite them, but they may not come,” McGhee says. “They may come, they may not come, and we might not invite them. We’ve talked to them, and we’ve talked about it.”